Sunday, June 04, 2006

Annie Oakly



My little Annie Oakly in the wild wild west. She was oevr her cousins and found a toy gun. So off she played with "bang, I shot you."

Mommy was less than thrilled. Daddy doesnt care, since I recall my childhood, where we did play with guns, and if you didnt use toy guns, we used rocks and sticks as them....

16 Comments:

Blogger carmachu said...

Mommy was more than just not thrilled with the gun thing, mommy was not happy at all, first of all I did not like seeing my child get mad at her young cousin and then shoot him in the head because he ticked her off, further more, kids do not grow up to kill eachother with sticks and rocks.......we will not be letting her play with guns anymore.....,.trust me!

8:10 PM, June 04, 2006  
Blogger carmachu said...

THey use rocks, sticks and anything else they can get their hands on as guns.

I speak from experience. Teach her gun safety as well and we wont have any worries....

8:53 PM, June 04, 2006  
Blogger carmachu said...

you are so wrong about this on so many levels it isn't worth discussing....bottom line is as long as I am her mother the playing with guns stops, I dont' like it, I dont' agree with it, and I won't have it...end of story.......this is one thing I won't back down on.

9:15 PM, June 04, 2006  
Blogger Baby Steps said...

sorry carmen but i've got to agree with kim ( its a mother thing we just know these things)
anyway , here's my views. I think later in life when sarah ( and cameron) are old enough to grasp the concept of what a gun is and respect all it involves then its ok . To me its more of a safety issue i think , you or I may not have a gun in our houses but maybe a friend may have one that sarah visits.She could find it and relate it to being a toy. The statistics on children shooting themselves is ENORMOUS and studies show children dont have the dexderity *sp* to hold the gun , thus using their thumbs and .... Plus they are just violent things no matter how you put it. Now i know I played with guns when I was young but I think today is a different world, kindergarteners are bringing guns to school! You wouldnt want sarah to watch a violent movie right? so why play with a violent toy. So .....educate on guns , talk about them ABSOLUTELY.. play with them now.. booooooo
I know dan and i have gotten into this debate , him being a Arkansas boy but we agreed that he may take cameron shooting and teach him to respect a gun(take the curiousity out)when he's old enough but until then , no guns in our house. LISTEN TO YOUR WIFE SHES SMART!!

9:40 PM, June 04, 2006  
Blogger Nikki said...

Sorry, I gotta agree with the gentleman (sorry). I really believe that we should teach gun safety to kids. I find nothing wrong with the whole stick as guns thing, and I find nothing wrong with toy guns. I do however have a problem with putting guns into kids hands that aren't ready for it yet.

This past deer season, I past a dad and his two boys hunting in the woods on my way to work. Dad had a shot gun and so did both boys. The boys were around 5 and 7. That scared the shit out of me. That's way to young.

Now that I've given my opinion (which wasn't asked for) I have to say that the Mrs. of the house sounds very firm, and you had better relent before there's a reckoning. She's going to go attack ninja on you if you aren't careful. LOL

10:57 PM, June 05, 2006  
Blogger kimcarm said...

I wouldn't say I have a firm hand, I just have certain things that I really believe in and this is one of them....guns scare me, and seeing my little girl using one, even a toy in such a violent and nasty way really bothered me, so it reallly has nothing to do with me ruling the roost or trying to control my husband, it is just somethign that is really important to me. I like to think that Carmen and I try to be equal with our parenting and with running the house....we have our disagreements but we try really hard to make decisions together as much as possilbe.

11:22 AM, June 06, 2006  
Blogger Nikki said...

Kimcarm - I didn't mean you were firm in the sort of way of ruling the roost - I meant no insult. I meant that you were firm on the subject of you daughter not playing with guns.

It's understandable. While I don't mind my kids playing with toy guns and sticks as guns etc, I still wouldn't let Charles bring a gun in the house until this last year due to Lauren's age.

Lauren is old enough now to start learning about them and with Charles and I both teaching her gun safety - she'll know more about them that most people.

Guns don't really scare me. I was in the Army and carried an M16 and also the SAW, - which is a full automatice weapon, I also used the M60 (a bigger, heavier duty version of the SAW) and grenade launcher. Of course, I was training to kill people.

1:22 PM, June 06, 2006  
Blogger kimcarm said...

Nikki, I was totally not insulted, I just didnt' want anyone to think I was some crazy nazi mommy who controls every move everyone makes. though I am sure sometimes my hubby feels that way! LOL

9:26 PM, June 06, 2006  
Blogger Nikki said...

Kimcarm - LOL "crazy nazi mommy" I know what you mean.

Charles thought I was being totally unreasonable with restricting the guns in the house (yes, we be country folks), but I wasn't comfortable. It did a lot for my piece of mind for them not to be here while she was young.

Now that we have Connor, I'm nervous again. Charles on the other hand has finally got to have the gun that was handed down by his grandfather in the house and I haven't figured out how to get it back out yet. LOL "We need to go ahead and teach Lauren before she learns to be scared of them."

While I agree with his point, I'm still nervous, gun safe or no.

9:58 PM, June 06, 2006  
Blogger Baby Steps said...

eh.. i'm still sticking to no guns till later.. did you guys come to an understanding?? I was thinking about this and its funny, dan has a huge K bar ( big ol knife he got in the marines) in the closet , hidden of course, but knifes serve other purposes other then just killing(chopping trees, food, etc)gun are guns are guns. so make nice and give sarah a hug for me:)

8:29 AM, June 07, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'd just like to note that given just how precocious sarah is proving to be, you'd be better off just giving her all the safety information you possibly can.

ed

9:56 AM, June 07, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the act of shooting (guns, waterguns, ray guns, whatever) being so prevalent in our entertainment industry, it's going to be very hard to get Sarah to not play guns in whatever form. Her imagination can't be bossed around. Kids will find something to act as a replacement for a gun-looking toy.

I sort of compromised (I, too, don't feel comfortable with my kids playing guns and shooting people). I allow the gun play as long as they don't shoot people or make pretend threats. Hubby and I also talk to our monkeys about guns and safety.

It's nie to see the communication back and forth on this.

hk

1:20 PM, June 07, 2006  
Blogger carmachu said...

I could be a smart ass and point out you thought it was a great idea to give another person's children squirt guns as a gift....

6:49 PM, June 08, 2006  
Blogger kimcarm said...

water guns are a whole different issue...in my mind anyway, they look nothing like a real gun and the whole idea is to squirt water at eachother, not "kill" eachother so I reallyl do not think it is the same thing.......

9:38 PM, June 08, 2006  
Blogger carmachu said...

So your saying sarah COULD play with guns,a s long as they dont look like ones? Liek squirt guns and nerf dart shooters and other stuff?

8:33 AM, June 09, 2006  
Blogger kimcarm said...

I don't mind nerf guns and water guns, because they have a purpose....toy guns that are just guns do not have an objective other than shooting eachother with the"gun" I can live with water guns and nerf guns because they have a specific way to play with them.

6:34 PM, June 09, 2006  

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